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Search Tech-Forums - link takes you to our Forum's search page. Note: The following is only a text archive! To view the actual forum discussion, please visit our website at http://www.tech-forums.net Pages:1 Wooo no admin!(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: Eagleboy Sending an email to the admin account yields this message: [QUOTE]This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: [email]admin@tech-forums.net[/email] Technical details of permanent failure: PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 550-"The recipient cannot be verified. Please check all recipients of this 550 message to verify they are valid."[/QUOTE] So, are we running blind here, or do we have somebody who can get stuff done? 'Cause it would seem that whoever IS here to do stuff can't even set up an email account.... No offense, but that posted email addy is EVERYWHERE, yet it's not real. I emailed about the über crappy 1440 minute time restriction for editing posts. TERRIBLE for the Buy/Sell forum, and should be turned off for that forum immediately. Posted by: brady PM DMo Posted by: Trotter Actually, it is good for BS/T. If you need to update, make a new post. Bumping in BS/T is against the rules, but adding an update isn't... Posted by: brady BS/T? What does that mean? Posted by: Eagleboy [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Trotter [/i] [B]Actually, it is good for BS/T. If you need to update, make a new post. Bumping in BS/T is against the rules, but adding an update isn't... [/B][/QUOTE] Often times, people will only check the first post though - if nothing there interests them, they'll click the back button. I see NO way that it is "good" for the Buy and Sell forum. Posted by: Trotter [quote][b]Often times, people will only check the first post though - if nothing there interests them, they'll click the back button.[/b][/quote] So we got stoopid people. What else is new? I've learned to read through the threads. Some items are sold, somehave prices reduced. Posted by: Eagleboy [QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Trotter [/i] [B]So we got stoopid people. What else is new? I've learned to read through the threads. Some items are sold, somehave prices reduced. [/B][/QUOTE] Yes, but this surge of "stupid people" can hurt possible sales. I know I know - no skin off the admin's back, but it is a feature that just simply has no purpose in that forum. I can see it's use in the other forums, where maybe a user wants to cover his/her tracks of stupidity or change the facts around or something, I can see the admin wanting to prevent secretive behavior like that. But, in the buy/sell forum, information changes constantly. Price changes, item additions, sale statuses, etc. This information should be readily available at the first post (this is customary in most every forum with a buy/sell/trade section). Most users view a thread "oh, okay, that's what they have for sale. I'm not interested". But, let's say a day later, an item is added to the list - and that uninterested buyer would have been interested in the newly added item. Well, that item won't sell, because there can be no change to the topic subject to grab that person's attention, and any future sales of that item are pretty well fended off by putting that item's listing several posts into the thread. THIS is why it is customary to edit the first post in the thread, notifying people about changes of stock, price, sale status, etc. The thread title can be changed to say "updated on *date*", and more traffic sees the thread. There are ZERO positive notes about this feature within this specific forum, therefore it should GO! Example: I recently got an XBOX 360 controller, and want to sell it. My current buy/sell thread is about networking components, so I would like to add the item to the listing and change the title of the thread to notify people of the new stock addition. People will only see that I have an XBOX 360 controller for sale if they happen to be browsing my networking components, and also scroll down to see the last post. That is not good. Then, the message stating the time limit tells me to email the admin's email addy, which does not exist. GREAT system we have in place here on this forum... I am posting this here so that the forum can be improved, and I am providing 100% valid reasons for my request. You seem to be trying to argue with me, giving reasons such as "Yeah, there are stupid people. Oh well". I hope somebody sees my logic on this one... Posted by: Trotter I see your logic, but this version of vB can't handle it that way. If you have a new item, make it its own thread. Besides, being able to legally bump your thread with an update keeps it at the top. Posted by: Eagleboy I've seen many vB boards with no time limit for editing posts... Or are you talking about my suggestion to only remove it in the buy/sell forum? Posted by: Trotter [quote]Or are you talking about my suggestion to only remove it in the buy/sell forum?[/quote] Yes. The 24 hour time limit was only started recently because some people were posting some stuff that shouldn't have been, and when they got caught, they'd go back and eliminate the evidence. Posted by: Juice Daddy that makes it hard (almost impossible) for me to update my photoshop demonstrations, and Signature Desings... Posted by: Trotter [quote] that makes it hard (almost impossible) for me to update my photoshop demonstrations, and Signature Desings...[/quote] PM a mod in that forum, or supermod, and they can edit it for you. Posted by: Juice Daddy I did.... DMo has been moding it for me... he has yet to add my latest revisions though... Posted by: DMo224 I'll do some more checking into the admin email account. I also wrote an email there today and it bounced. [i]Juice, I thought the latest revision was added in. I sent you an email.[/i] [quote]I can see it's use in the other forums, where maybe a user wants to cover his/her tracks of stupidity or change the facts around or something, I can see the admin wanting to prevent secretive behavior like that.[/quote] This has also happened in the BST forum when members have tried to change the deals that they offered and someone accepted. [quote]But, in the buy/sell forum, information changes constantly. Price changes, item additions, sale statuses, etc. This information should be readily available at the first post (this is customary in most every forum with a buy/sell/trade section). ....THIS is why it is customary to edit the first post in the thread, notifying people about changes of stock, price, sale status, etc. The thread title can be changed to say "updated on *date*", and more traffic sees the thread.[/quote] First, if you didn't edit the title of the thread within 5 minutes of posting, you were not able to edit the title. And even if you could edit the title, this might draw attention to the thread or might not. However, it may get lost since the thread was not bumped and there is a large amount of threads being added. So, the title changes and the thread is on page 2 or 3 or further back and the change made no difference. It's debatable, no solid proof, that more traffic goes to a thread because of a title change. The positiveness of this change may lie in something that most members will never see, or hopefully never see, since this change has been due to problems arising from allowing the change. Of the forums that I frequent (quite a few), it is not customary to allow changes in any thread after a certain amount of time (generally 24 hours). It is something that has been allowed here for quite awhile but the change was recently made. [quote]Then, the message stating the time limit tells me to email the admin's email addy, which does not exist. GREAT system we have in place here on this forum...[/quote]Thanks for letting us know that the system is not working properly with the email. Of course, there is another way to contact the admin (by looking on the Forum Leaders page and sending a PM or email to a specific one), but I thought everyone knew by now who the Admin in Charge is since I get so many emails. [quote]I am posting this here so that the forum can be improved, and I am providing 100% valid reasons for my request.[/quote] I can see the validity of your request, but it is by far not 100% valid since you may not see the underlying reasoning for the change. Thanks for your request. I hope that when we update our software that this will be something that we can reconsider for the BST forum. However, with recent ativity being as it has been, I'm not sure if it will change. We could raise that time, but it wouldn't be for more than 48 hours. I don't think that would do much good for most people that want to change their initial post. Thanks. Dave :D Posted by: Eagleboy Thanks for your input - the other forums I frequent (head-fi.org, iphotoforum.com, fredmiranda.com) all allow changes to the thread titles and edits to the posts. When an item is sold, this is posted in the title of the thread as well as the first post of the thread. If items are added, this can be mentioned in the title, even if a simple "updated: *date*" line is used. I just feel bad that my 360 controller is in my "networking stuffs" thread. Obviously, the controller is not networking equipment, and I already have two threads out. I know how some members can be if somebody makes three different buy/sell threads within a couple days. Thank you very much though. -Tom vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2003, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. PPC Management vB Easy Archive Final - Created by Xenon |