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Posted by: Kangaroo

[color=blue][b][u][size=3]What are the benefits of PCI-Express x16?[/color][/b][/u][/size]

There are lots of new technology coming out at the moment, and one of these is PCI-Express x16 - massive bandwidth and everyone happy that it is backwards compatible with old PCI cards.

There are 2 reasons why high-end cards aren't on PCI-Express at the moment, these being:

The [u]benefits[/u] first, and why are there no GeForce 6800 Ultra's or X800 XT's in a PCI-Express format?

[b]Bandwidth[/b]
PCI Express design provides more than double the bandwidth of AGP solutions. Full bandwidth is available in both upstream and downstream directions simultaneously, whereas AGP is only capable of unidirectional bandwidth.

[b]Power Management[/b]
The serial bus with the reduced pin structure of the ATI native PCI Express architecture reduces the number of signals required, supporting lower power consumption and PCI Express's low-power idle states.
Notebook users will find this feature of particular importance.

[b]Company experience[/b] second, large companies know that only about 10% of their sales are high-end graphics cards, now compare this to how many people currently have PCI-Express x16 (2%? If that), their high-performance graphics cards on AGP only sell at a minimum, so imagine the sales of high-end cards on PCI-Express.

[color=green][url=http://www.nvidia.com/page/pci_express.html]NVIDIA & PCI-Express[/url][/color]
[color=red][url=http://www.ati.com/products/PCIexpress/index.html]ATI & PCI-Express[/url][/color]



Posted by: CplusX2

From alienware.com

The new X2 line of Alienware workstations capitalizes on the latest PCI Express technology to deliver unprecedented performance. Alienware's exclusive X2™ motherboard enables dual x16 PCI Express graphics to support up to four monitor screens. In addition to doubled bandwidth to meet the demands of emerging graphics, the latest Intel® Xeon® processor with 1MB L2 cache and 800MHz front side bus delivers power and speed for processor intensive applications.

I saw on tech tv "The Screen Saver" show that they are working on technology where you can use two graphics cards on one monitor. The screen is divided in half (top and bottem) and one card writes pixels to the bottem and one to the top part. I am waiting for that, hehehe oooh...

I am looking forward to this technology moving forward



Posted by: Kangaroo

Yeah its called NVIDIA SIL, allows Dual 3D cards - its in a hardware magazine or else I would put it in a url for everyone.

Here is a basic view from NVIDIA, [url=http://www.nvidia.com/page/sli.html]link[/url].



Posted by: koldapu

there is a 6800GT pci express card

[url]http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/143/1/[/url]

its due in fall '04



Posted by: xcoreyx

I work at Bestbuy and we have the new 256mb 6800GT pci express cards right now for 399.99$. only 310.56 after discounts for me ; )



Posted by: koldapu

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by xcoreyx [/i]
[B]I work at Bestbuy and we have the new 256mb 6800GT pci express cards right now for 399.99$. only 310.56 after discounts for me ; ) [/B][/QUOTE]

tell your superiors or webmaster or whatever to take the pci-express off that cards info page . . . its an agp card

6800GTs are not yet on the market . . . they have only been made available to reviewers like PCWorld, Guru3D, etc



Posted by: beckerwg

look for 6800's and x800's in pci-express format by late October. Thats when my distributor told me I would be able to get them. However, ASUS has released a PCI-X version of the X800 you can find it on ZipZoomFly.com



Posted by: Brisky

When are the 939 bit MSI mobos going to support the new PCI E cards, and how much do you guess the new 6800 GT PCI E cards will cost?




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