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Netwerking using crossover cable
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Posted by: A_Zip1
Yeah ok well i have my main computer which is win2k3 server, i have 2 network cards on thier, one for internet one for connecting to my other computer and i have another computer with one network card that i connect to the second netwerk card on the main computer. so yeah i set up the "internet sharing" thing on my first connection connected to the net, and i enabled both connections, but when i do i cant connect to the other computer OR the internet!!, but when i disable my second card that connects to the other computer and "repair" my internet connection, i can connect to the computer but when i enable my second card connecting to my other computer, it shuts down again... any ideas whats going on guys?
Ohh yeah and my main computer is running windows2k3 and my other one is running win 98.
Posted by: A_Zip1
ok just erase everything i just said from ur memory... lol sorry guys.... but yeah ok well now i have it all set up, and i can ping each computer, but i cant connect my second computer to the internet, i installed the client thing i needed on it, and set up the internet connection to connect throught the lan and it wont work. any helps guys?
Posted by: Harold III
you need to setup the proxy on the computer that has internet connection. Then the second computer can get online thru the proxy.
Posted by: A_Zip1
haha yeah, thats what my friend told me, but im not quite sure how to do that... is thier any walkthrougs for it??.. or can u tell me the basis of it and ill figure out the rest..
Posted by: mikesgroovin
Feastures like ISA and NAT are already built in to Win2k3 Server. I'm sure Microsoft has many many articles on how to setup a web proxy and how to configure the client to "autodiscover" the server.
Usually I would refer you to a program like WinProxy....but this can get a little expensive......and Win2k3 has it all built right in.
Also....not sure if this is a legit copy or not...but if by a wild shot, it is...then you should have plenty on support from MS....if not then the articles on the site should be enough.
Articles 816320....331062 and 324264 should do it!
-Mike
Posted by: A_Zip1
hmm i found the ICS thing built into win2k3 but thats about it, but yeah i dunno i can see all the files im sharing on my win2k3 computer when im on my win98 computer and my win98 computer gets the internet when im running the proxy on my win2k3 machine, but yeah i cant see the files on my win98 computer when im on my win2k3 computer, i cant even find the network neighberhood... but yeah the computer name is "A_Zip1" that i wanna connect to, so i thought u jus whent " //A_Zip1/"
and then it should connect???... but yeah is the netwerk neighberhood thing hidden on win2k3 or what??
Posted by: mikesgroovin
it's \\a_zip1\sharename
Could be the problem...
-Mike
Posted by: A_Zip1
haa yeah i know, i just put it down here wrong, but yeah i dunno its called "My Network Places" - thats what i was lookin for - but yeah ok i can ping my other computer from my win2k3 computer and all that but for sum reason i cant connect to the shared folders on the other computer, and i can connect to the shared folders on this computer from my win 98 computer?... when i do a search on the network, all the win2k3 machine picks up is itself. What could be the problem?
Posted by: mikesgroovin
lol....I figured that...
Ok, what happens when you type in \\A_zip1\"whatever sharename"?
Posted by: A_Zip1
okk yeah so the C drive is being shared under "Andrews C" so yeah i type in \\A_Zip1\Andrews C and.... its saiz "Windows Cannot find "\\A_Zip1\Andrews C". check the spelling and try again......" .. so yeah and i double checked on my other computer to make sure it was sharing the file and that that was the computer name and all that.... and i thought meybe my win98 was FAT32 and meybe that was why, but nope its running NTFS like my win2k3 comp... so i dunno?... any more suggesting?.
Posted by: mikesgroovin
The drive formats wont matter over the network. Try just sharing the drive as "C" and see how that works.
I also have a Win2k3 machine that I use on my network. I threw in a 98SE image on another machine and was able to go back and forth after both mahines were up. This was using a default installation.....no changes. I will look further but there is something that we are missing here.....
-Mike
Posted by: subdivizion
Windows 98 can't recognize NTFS file systems. most likely, your W98 machine is running on FAT32
but like mikesgroovin said, that shouldn't make a difference because XP can read both NTFS and FAT32. just to clarify that...
Posted by: mikesgroovin
Actually, what you are saying is incorrect.
This is only true within an OS.
Win98 running a FAT32 file system CAN detect and read a NTFS file system over a network.
Anyway...his problem is going from his Win2k3 to 98 PC.....
-Mike
Posted by: A_Zip1
ok guys it doesnt even matta... cuz as i said " ...its running NTFS..." but yeah so i just cant seem to find my win98 computer on my netwerk... but i can see my win2k3 computer when im on my win98... i dun understandd whats goinn onn
Posted by: ekĘsine
i almost would have thought he was right about NTFS and win98. mike is the reason because win2k will 'translate' the information to the win98 machine so it would see the files or is it because the protocol translates it or why?
A_Zip1 i ran into your problem a week or so ago between win98 and winxp pro. my cause was because either the sharing permission wrong or more likely it is because your share names are invalid and win98 cannot recognize them.
what are you naming your shares? try using a max of 11 charaters and numbers only and the dash "-". no spaces, no capital letters ect, only alphanumeric.
Posted by: gruntwerk
or enclose the \\pc name \drive name in quotes...
generally though, you are better off NOT putting spaces in pcnames, usernames or sharenames...
if its a small network, keep the names short and sweet (*you may hafta type them someday*)...
what happens if you fire up a command prompt and type
C:\>NET USE X: \\PCNAME\SHARENAME
or
C:\> NET VIEW \\PCNAME
do you have the Microsoft networking running on both computers?
Posted by: A_Zip1
Hey, well in reply to ekĘsine, the problem isnt that win98 cant recognize the files on the win2k3 computer, the win98 computer is working perfectly i have a proxy set up on my win2k3 computer and it gives the win98 computer the net, and i can see the files on the win2k3 computer when im on the win98 comp, but the problem is i cant seem to find the win98 computer when im on my win2k3 i tryed everything... the ip for the other card is "192.168.0.2" and i can ping the win98 computer from my win2k3 computer i just cant find it er anything, like to share files etc. , But yeah in reply to Gruntwerk if i type in " Net View \\A_Zip1 " without the quotaion marks it saiz "System error 53 occurd, The network path was not found", and if i type in " Net Use X: \\A_Zip1\Andrews C " it saiz "System error 67 occured, The netwerk name cannot be found"....
Posted by: ekĘsine
just so we get the obvious out of the way, do you have any software firewalls enabled on the win98? and also should you be using a crossover cable instead of straight?
Posted by: A_Zip1
Yes, and yes... i have NPF [Norton Personal Firewall] 2003 on my win98 computer, and im using a cross-over cable, i put the IP of the second NIC card to allow through the win98 computer with NPF... and ive also disabled it, and still no works
Posted by: office politics
do you have the user for the 98 box added into the w2k3 box?
Posted by: A_Zip1
no, when i go to add permission to a folder i go to permission and then it has an option for what location, and the only location is the computer im already on, and it doesnt detect the other one. So i just set it to give full control to everyone.
Posted by: ekĘsine
you are supposed to create an account with same username/ pass on the win2k3 for advanced sharing options. your permission does it say "everyone" with an icon of people? what happens when you use simple file sharing instead of advanced, if thats an option on win2k3.
for winXP you can pop in the CD on win98 and select other tasks> setup network. wondering if win2k3 is the same or if you could make a floppy setup. an easy way to fix all of this is, could you just not use win98/ME? most of us are taking guesses since we cant see your computer unless.... you can install pcAnywhere on that win98
Posted by: A_Zip1
ohh yeah, i do have pc anywhere... i could do this, but it would be more of a hassle, because i would have to open it erytime i wanted 2 transfer files
Posted by: ekĘsine
no i mean so someone can take a look at your setup and see whats happening, not for file sharing.