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File Sharing Problems
Discuss File Sharing Problems
Posted by: 97lt2959
What im trying to do is get my two networked computers to share files without passwords on the shares.
One is windows 2000 pro and the other is windows 98se
the windows 98 computer has some software which needs to put files in the share \\computer1\share1$ (the share is also hidden)
but it seems it cannot it needs a password. Ive researched on the internet and found one option that works having the same users and ther same passwords on each computer, this works but is not feasable. Can any one help??
The aim of the game is to get access to the share on the windows 2000 computer without using a password, basically because the program cannot store the password therfore cannot connect to the share.
Posted by: office politics
you need to have a user setup on the win2k box that is the same username that is logged into the win98 pc
edit: if you're trying to access a admin share the user is going to need to have admin rights also
Posted by: 97lt2959
yeah, thats whats setup currently, but if the windows 98 machine adds a new user then id have to do it manually otherwise they wouldnt have access to the shares. You get me? Because the person who uses windows 98 add and changes users regularly its just not feasable. For example if the password is changed on the windows 98 machine on one of the users the user wouldnt be able to access his/her shares because the password would be differnet on the windows 2000 comp. Is there away around that? Do ya get me?
Cheers for trying to help :)
Posted by: Inaris
This will always be the case, unless you set up a domain to work from. The Accounts are machine specific and will remain that way otherwise. Windows connects a SID to the username and unless the name and password match, the account will not work. With the sid attached, Since the username and passwords match the sid isn't referenced. If the password doesn't match, then the sid is used.
You could just require that the passwords don't change.
Posted by: 97lt2959
yeah i could but thats a bit of a secuirty risk. Am i right in thinking you have to have windows 2000 server to setup a domain?
Posted by: Inaris
any server version for Windows. You can get an NT server and do that if you want. Linux provides that ability too. Samba or something...
Posted by: 97lt2959
ok cheers for your help.
Posted by: ekĘsine
the easiest way to do what you want is to use a window operating system other than win2k. you cannot have good security combined with that much flexibility. it is unreasonable to ask that from an operating system.
it is good that win2k has this security though, but you also should rationally consider whether you really need this security. curious, how is constantly changing usernames and passwords making it more secure? i think that is very unnecessary.
Posted by: 97lt2959
basically the person that uses the win98 system is a bit security concious and changed the usernames and password regularly. the person also has alot of friends who he likes to give usernames and passwords, a bit stupid really when he should just use the guest password but hey never mind!?.
Thanks for the help everyone xxx
Posted by: office politics
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ekĘsine [/i]
the easiest way to do what you want is to use a window operating system other than win2k. [/QUOTE]
paraphrase, downgrade the win2k to win98. create the shares with pwds.
Posted by: 97lt2959
errrm no thanx for the advice in theory it would work but i cant stand windows 98. Thanks for your help everyone though :-)
Posted by: mikesgroovin
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by 97lt2959 [/i]
[B]but it seems it cannot it needs a password. Ive researched on the internet and found one option that works having the same users and ther same passwords on each computer, this works but is not feasable. Can any one help?? [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm not sure that I understand. Why wouldn't this be feasible? This should work fine.
-Mike
Posted by: 97lt2959
no because if the useron the windows 98 machine changes his/her password then the password on the win2k machine will be different therefore the windows98 machine wouldnt be able to coonect to the shares. We either need a domain which it authenticates by or downgrade to windows 98 which aint gonna happen
Posted by: mikesgroovin
I see.....
I just wasn't sure why this wasn't feasible in your environment. But, yea, you're correct...without any user/pass control, this will be a nightmare. Why wouldn't authenticating to a DC be an option?
Yea, I wouldn't downgrade either, especially to 98.
-Mike
Posted by: 97lt2959
Because i dont have a dc i think i will upgrade to win2k server thought cheers for ya help
Posted by: gruntwerk
Set the win98 computer to use ms family login, then the password for the network stuff will be different..
or dont have a password on the hidden share...
or add a bat file to the startup group that does the net use
D:\My Documents>net use /?
The syntax of this command is:
NET USE [devicename | *] [\\computername\sharename[\volume] [password | *]]
[/USER:[domainname\]username]
[/USER:[dotted domain name\]username]
[/USER:[username@dotted domain name]
[[/DELETE] | [/PERSISTENT:{YES | NO}]]
NET USE {devicename | *} [password | *] /HOME
NET USE [/PERSISTENT:{YES | NO}]
??/
Posted by: mikesgroovin
But the fact of the matter is that the Windows 98 users do not have a limit. They can change the password of their account anytime they want...thus voiding the authentication process.
-Mike