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I've lost my data on my HDD!
Discuss I've lost my data on my HDD!
Posted by: ofreeb
Hi,
I took out a hard drive from a computer and when I put it on another one everything was gone! I think it is down to the file system that may be corrupted.
What can I do to recover my 40 GB of songs?
Ofreeb
Posted by: BASSMASTER
40 GB of songs huh, that's a lot.
Can you give us some more information about exactly what you did? A little more info about what exactly you mean by gone? More info about your original setup and the new setup?
Posted by: benzimm86
ya i did that once to. i hooked the hdd from my computer up to a friends to copy some pictures over and then the drive no longer worked. could not bootup, dont remember if i got an error or what really happened. i think just got a different hd
Posted by: KMOTE
you didn't take it out while the comp was on did you?
this has never happened to me
Posted by: Juice Daddy
Has to have something to do with the partition, does it still work in the computer it came out of?
did you take it out of an xp computer(ntfs) and put it into one with windows 98(fat32)??, or do you use linux on one??
Posted by: benzimm86
dont mean to take over the thread but i know in my experience the computer was off. it went from one xp machine to another xp machine which i remember reading earlier today that does not work but i dont know why it would ruin the drive. could you use something like partition table doctor to fix the partition table.
Posted by: Law
LOL, You can only swap drive that have the same hardware dudes.
Posted by: Juice Daddy
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Law [/i]
[B]LOL, You can only swap drive that have the same hardware dudes. [/B][/QUOTE]
care to explain?
Posted by: BASSMASTER
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Law [/i]
[B]LOL, You can only swap drive that have the same hardware dudes. [/B][/QUOTE]
not true, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
Posted by: Law
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Juice Daddy [/i]
[B]care to explain? [/B][/QUOTE]
During the boot process when the ntldr is loaded the minifile system is run so ntldr can read file from FAT or NTFS file system. Then ntldr is able to read the boot.ini file. Ntldr run the program ntdetect.com which is use to check the hardware devices and passes this information back to the ntldr which will later be used to update the registry. Ntldr then loads ntoskrn.exe, hal.dll and the system hive(which is a portion of the registry that include hardware information that is use to load the proper device driver for the current hardware. Ntldr then passes the process over to ntoskrn.exe and the process is complete.
Thats why you can't just swapp harddrive with an OS already install on it.
I was kind of too direct about my point and not realize that you maybe able to do so If you had more then one hardware profile.
Posted by: BASSMASTER
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Law [/i]
[B]During the boot process when the ntldr is loaded the minifile system is run so ntldr can read file from FAT or NTFS file system. Then ntldr is able to read the boot.ini file. Ntldr run the program ntdetect.com which is use to check the hardware devices and passes this information back to the ntldr which will later be used to update the registry. Ntldr then loads ntoskrn.exe, hal.dll and the system hive(which is a portion of the registry that include hardware information that is use to load the proper device driver for the current hardware. Ntldr then passes the process over to ntoskrn.exe and the process is complete.
Thats why you can't just swapp harddrive with an OS already install on it.
I was kind of too direct about my point and not realize that you maybe able to do so If you had more then one hardware profile. [/B][/QUOTE]
Detailing the boot process isn't much of an explanation. With Windows 9X I rarely encountered problems with swapping out drives. 2000/XP can be trickier and sometimes not worth the hassle, but by no means impossible.
Posted by: Law
I'm talking about changing the harddrive to another computer, not changing two different harddrive on a single computer.
Posted by: Law
In benzimm86 situation, everything should work if he had his harddrive set as slave and his friend as primary. The OS would just recognize it as another drive.
Posted by: CJJohnson
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Law [/i]
[B]LOL, You can only swap drive that have the same hardware dudes. [/B][/QUOTE]
How do USB drives get around this?
Can you get a USB adaptor/enclosure to put your HDD in?
I thought it may have been an NTFS/FAT32(16) problem as NTFS doesn't work under Win98.
Posted by: Rich M
Seems like everyone is far afield here...many are assuming ofreeb tried to boot one drive in another and then there are some of us who assumed he slaved it and then could not see it.
You can slave any drive in any other pc, as long as the main drive is master.
I am just wondering if one unit had Fat 32 and the other ntfs, as you know Fat 32 cannot read NTFS.
Posted by: Law
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ofreeb [/i]
[B]Hi,
I took out a hard drive from a computer and when I put it on another one everything was gone! I think it is down to the file system that may be corrupted.
What can I do to recover my 40 GB of songs?
Ofreeb [/B][/QUOTE]
Sounds like he put a harddrive with a working OS into another computer.
Posted by: CJJohnson
As far as I know, XP can run on and read both NTFS and FAT 32. However, Win 98 can run on and read Fat 32 but not NTFS.
Posted by: CJJohnson
But surely Law, the worst that would do is try to load all new drivers and ask to be re-authenticated. I don't think that would trash a HDD structure full stop. Still not a good idea though.
Posted by: Law
your right cj it would not trash the whole system but only corrupt the registry. I believe Ofreeb could still recover his data since it might still reside on the harddrive. See a specialist who can do it for you
Posted by: CJJohnson
I'm wondering if you could attach it to a working XP system (USB or IDE) and, as long as it shows up in My Computer, run disk Error-checking on that drive and see what Windows comes up with, might even save it free of charge.
Posted by: Law
**** i was being direct again and not realize you can use Knoppix to recover it, you gotta have 2 cd drive though
heres a link [url]http://www.shockfamily.net/cedric/knoppix/[/url]
Posted by: ofreeb
Thank you Rich M!
My HDD is an addition; I'm not talking about a drive containing an OS! It has just 60 GB of songs. I swapped it twice or 3 times before and it worked...
It is when I put it back into the original machine that nothing could be seen. A window pops up asking for a formatting!
Ofreeb
Posted by: Win2kpatcher
oohh yuck thats not good...just be sure you dont format it just yet. Give this tool a shot and see if it can recover items for you. I have used it in the past and had some good luck with it..espicailly for being free :)