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BS in computer information systems?
Discuss BS in computer information systems?
Posted by: slick4788
I'm in highschool just researching some BS stuff here and there. What exactly is computer information systems? Is it a lot of programming? I can do programming but I don't want to to do it all day. What do CIS guys do? What kind of jobs do you get with a CIS degree?
Thnx
Posted by: beedubaya
CIS is a broad field that includes programmers, network administrators, information specialists, tech support, web design, and others.
Posted by: slick4788
What's the difference between the computer science degree and computer information systems?
Posted by: blacktop89
haha, the amount of math you take!!!!
Posted by: bla!!
I've got friends in both fields.
CIS Seems to be more oriented towards the management end of computer systems. For instance you could become a leader of an ITS team or the manager of an IT dept.
Computer Science is a degree that will get you into a programming position. You'll learn many computer languages like Java, C, C++, SQL, VB and many more. You'll probably learn some of these in your CIS degree too.
As far as the class requirements, more than likely your first 3 years in both degrees will be very similar. Get your prerequisites out of the way along with some light programming courses. Then you'll begin to split as the CIS degree goes into management classes and applied computing while the BS in CS goes into advanced programming like computing theory and AI.
Posted by: Larry
I believe bla!! is correct (more or less)
some schools call it MIS (management information systems), which is in the business school.
and CS (computer science), which is in the science school.
MIS, being in the business school has programming, but also learning about information technology and how to manage it.
CS, I believe is more about programing and more 'enginerring' or technical stuff.
check out this site
[url]http://www.computer-technology-schools.com[/url]
Posted by: Stinky20
Hey Everyone,
Recently I've been reading and hearing that a lot of the IT and tech jobs are being out-sourced to India. Also some of my professors in some programming classes say that the classes are smaller b/c no one wants an IT job b/c they are all going overseas.
With all of this outsourcing happening & the economy being down which is better to get a B.S in either MIS or CS??
Posted by: Larry
:) while it is true that 'out sourcing' to other countries have increased... that does not mean jobs here are less, but if it DOES mean jobs are less here.. THEN you need a MIS degree.
why?
If a company is sending 'programming' work overseas.... you NEED someone to manage it. The communication barrier IS VERY hard to deal with, much less ALL the problems that can happen on a project.
BUT, I believe this 'outsourcing' is not as beneficial as once thougth. While your man hour cost per hour goes down.. .OTHER cost rise!!
really, you should not base your decision on outsourcing or the economy. BOTH degrees are in demand BUT also read this thread:
[url]http://www.tech-forums.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9965[/url]
good luck
Posted by: Stinky20
If I get a degree in MIS what kinds of jobs will i be doing in the field fresh out of college and what would be the starting salary??
Should I get any special certifications??
Where/How should I start to look for an internship??
Posted by: Larry
:)
IMO, figure out "WHAT do you WANT to be doing... as in the jobs/fields out of college?"
back in 95, my starting salary was 32k (consulting)
have no idea what people are making now???
certifications depend on you goals or your employers goals/requirements.
internship... start now, look for something good!!
but one thing you need to ask yourself...
do you want a Job or a Career?
there is a BIG difference
:)
Posted by: Stinky20
I think that's the thing... I dont know what i want to be doing in the job/field out of college. But i do know that i dont want to do programming cus that just gives me a major headache.
I've been thinking to change my major to New Media instead of MIS but everyone keeps telling me to stay in MIS cus it's a broad field.
Like i said, i don't know what i want to do but i love computers and wouldn't mind working with them .... either fixing them or something.
maybe i need some enlightening or guidence lol :)
Posted by: bla!!
As far as internships. You can find some pretty decent ones in the comptuer tech support area within your college. I'm currenly interning as an ITS Technician at the University of Minnesota Libraries. Its good experience, and since its a state run school, they're pretty laid back on budgets and such.
Posted by: Yenno
[QUOTE]or the manager of an IT dept.[/QUOTE]
thats not for CIS,here i think the BIS degree comes in..
which is not buisness school & its diiferent from MIS
[quote]some schools call it MIS (management information systems), which is in the business school.
and CS (computer science), which is in the science school.
[/quote]
Buisness Info. Systems is considered IT!
comes in between CIS & MIS i guess
*correct me if i'm wrong
Posted by: Christina82
I am currently pursuing my BS in Computer Science—I know that this degree will open up more opportunities for better salary, but I am more into web design. Either of the two degrees (CIS or CS) will get me to web design, I’m sure. I want to know just about everything, but I really want to work in web design. How is that industry? I mean, is it overloaded? Is it in demand, and is it practical?
Posted by: Christina82
P.S. I think the CS degree is proving to be alot more MATH!!!! :)
Posted by: Larry
CS is more math.... its basically ALL programming. = in the science school
MIS people can do programming also.
if you like web design, programming will help BUT...
imo, web design is about UNDERSTANDING people...
and how people work/use with a browser...
note: there are many areas when it comes to 'web design',
you should figure out which area you are interested in....
whether its in one, a few, or ALL...
this might sound a little greek to you, but do a little research to find out "What makes a successful website"....
then you will understand alll the "areas" of web development.
good luck
Posted by: Christina82
Thanks, I will do some research. You bring up very good points. :) :)