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FAQ: What Programming Language Should I Start With?
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Posted by: Emily
[b]What Programming Language Should I Start With?[/b]
If you've never programmed a "Hello world" in your life, you might want to try HTML first. HTML might seem elementary, but it's an excellent introduction to the ideas of syntax and basic programming. In addition, all web programming languages are pretty much useless without HTML.
When you've got HTML down, a popular beginning language is Visual Basic. Some people claim VB isn't a "real" programming language, but it is powerful despite its simplicity. Most computer-literate users also find the IDE (Intergrated Development Environment) to be pretty friendly, if expensive. Almost all Visual Basic books come with a working model edition that serves the needs of most beginners.
If you've had some prior programming experience or you are exceptionally good with computers, you might want to try something a little more advanced. For desktop programming, you'll hear C++ from a lot of people; C, C#, and JAVA are also good options that won't lead you astray. PHP is a good choice for web programming that's very up-and-coming; PERL and ASP are also popular web programming choices.
Posted by: BlazingWolf
Sharp Devlop is a great IDE/Compiler for VB .NET and C# and it's free.
[url]http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Download/[/url]
Posted by: phantomike
thanks im curently working on html and i just wanted to know what i should go into next java script or php
Posted by: raylu
I haven't heard much dispute about whether VB is a programming language. It is a bit slow but doubtlessly very powerful.
HTML however, isn't really a programming language. The most non-static thing HTML has is a form...
By the way, I recommend JavaScript. Free, and shows you the basics of syntax. The code is exactly like ActionScript, and very simliar to the C's and JAVA. VB however, has longer code (although Microsofts VB compiler types some of the code for you) and is...non-standard.
Posted by: shan
php!!!! of course i'm gonna say that though :) php is a really good language to get down, i've built pretty complex apps with it and i really like creating good web applications, i've also see [u[very[/u] complex apps written entirely in php and some javascript....but for the most part php will do everything that you want it to do! :)
Posted by: BlazingWolf
I've heard a lot as far as "VB isn't a langauge" lot of the people who program C\C++ say that because they like to waste thier time making simple apps that could be made in minutes with VB. They may a little slower but not enough that it will matter.
Posted by: r34p3r
Wow. How can you say HTML is a programming language...
C would be the easiest and probably most proficient language to start with if you want to program. But I may be wrong.. you might just want to web "program".
Posted by: Emily
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by r34p3r [/i]
[B]Wow. How can you say HTML is a programming language...[/B][/QUOTE]
I never said it's a programming language, I just said it's a good thing to know if you're starting programming... :freak:
Posted by: didi
I'm learning HTML n c programming.
Posted by: CacheUK
I've got an actionscript for games book, it is quite entertaining (cos you can play on your "creations") and it is very useful because it is quite like Javascript (which in turn is quite standard in terms of syntax etc)
Plus you get the benefit of playing with graphics which always makes a nice break :D
Posted by: sippin codeine
start with delphi, then learn c++ if your up to the challenge.
Posted by: Retro
Hey Emily,
have you got any tips for learning JavaScript. You can see my thread [URL=http://www.tech-forums.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20833]here[/URL] for more details. I'd be grateful if you could help seeing as I've heard your good at programming!
Thanks,
Retro
Posted by: Emily
Retro, I replied to your thread. :)
Posted by: mramige
Java is being used by most universities now to start off CS students.
Posted by: didi
My friend told be Java more easy to master. Is it true?
Posted by: hooloovoo
Forget HTML. Its not even a programming language, its a scripting language and its so simply you can easily pick it up.
Id start wiith java and perl. Java is nice and easy, free, and once you have the hang of it you can move on to c++ which is very similar, and JavaScript to create some interesting web pages.
Perl and php are so similar they can be learnt side by side, almost as one language, and also allows you to create some interesting web pages.
Posted by: hooloovoo
If your really up for the challenge learn some functional languages such as Haskell. Its a completely different way of programming and way of thinking. Its amazing how powerful it is. You can create a single line of code in Haskell which would require several in a language like java.
Posted by: Frosty
i would stay start with delphi. The language is very simple, and it comes with a cool frontend wasit, so you can have working windows app's in minutes.
If you want more of a challenge try C++ or php
Posted by: NanoSoft
Does anyone know of any good books on beginning programming? "Sams Teach Yourself Beginning Programming in 24 Hours" seems to be a good book for basics
Posted by: mac_mogul
[url]http://www.w3schools.com/default.asp[/url]
Awesome Tutorials are here! I'm studying up on HTML right now! :D
Posted by: sippin codeine
[img]http://www.html4.com/mime/jpg/Will_code_HTML_for_food.jpg[/img]
Posted by: silence782
Do you know of any good sites that teath java scripting for a beginner?
Posted by: NanoSoft
[url]http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/webmonkeys/javascript/[/url]
[url]http://www.javascriptmall.com/learn/index.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1556228562/103-9371675-9247864?v=glance[/url]
however that link [url]http://www.w3schools.com/default.asp[/url] is excellent!!
by the way..that site is only for web languages.....should I really start with Web languages? I was thinking maybe BASIC or i'm about to get a TI-86 calculator and begin learning Assembly language...ASL.
Posted by: Alex81388
I did TrueBasic, then went to Java.
Dont even want to lear C++, just use java for most things and a lot if similar.
Good path for most people I thing.
Posted by: nemesis987
hmm, I say, start off with some basic HTML. Then, make your own personal website using a free service like geocities to help accustom u to CODING. Then learn to 'program' MIRC ;) Then move on to C++ hehehe
Posted by: ZoneFire
Currently, I am learning Java.
it is my first programming language that i learned.
before that, i learned VB for my project.it might be simple, but not very good as they can only run in Windows only.right???
Java is more complicated compared to VB.
So far, i don't know how to make Java class file into a .exe file.
so can anyone tell me about that??? :question:
anyway, my recommendations still go for Java or C++ for the beginners. :D
Posted by: sippin codeine
[SIZE=4]PASCAL [/SIZE] Is used in schools as a learning tool, It is easier than java or c++ to beginners, give it a try if you interested in actually making a prgram, and not bull-shitting then move to Delphi. Also the easiest and more effecient hello world program is this. Put the following line in a new text document:
msgbox "hello world"
Then change the file extension to .VBS and run it.
At least you get a windows output, I also see no posted examples on how to make a hello world program in HTML.
Posted by: ZoneFire
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by sippin codeine [/i]
Also the easiest and more effecient hello world program is this. Put the following line in a new text document:
msgbox "hello world"
Then change the file extension to .VBS and run it.
At least you get a windows output, I also see no posted examples on how to make a hello world program in HTML. [/B][/QUOTE]
this is a vbsccript right???
can you provide more about that...
or any useful link to learn about that? :rolleyes:
Posted by: sippin codeine
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by ZoneFire [/i]
[B]this is a vbsccript right???
can you provide more about that...
or any useful link to learn about that? :rolleyes: [/B][/QUOTE]
Yes this is VBScript, you can fine more examples here.
[url]http://www.winguides.com/scripting/[/url]
Posted by: MrSpecial
I agree with many of you, I think that HTML is a great start for many programmers. I have easily learned HTML from several different sites. I am also taking VB in school, making my day quite a bit better :) Anyways, I am learning PHP, I can not comment too much about it, since I have just started it.
Posted by: NeoNemesis
I would go with basic, it teaches you the fundamentals of programming. Thats how many people I know start off including me.
Posted by: sippin codeine
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by NeoNemesis [/i]
[B]I would go with basic, it teaches you the fundamentals of programming. Thats how many people I know start off including me. [/B][/QUOTE]
Actually BASIC teaches you the opposite. Pascal = OOP.
Posted by: vidyaputra
ya i think java is easy to use, and already internationally used...
but i think its better and must to know c/c++ because its a good basic programming....^^
i was, learning java programming...
but i was wondering is Borland JBuilder is a good compiler?
-vip-
Posted by: Chazzer3
I've only ever done any programming in HTML, and I am keen to continue, I would like to start some VB programming.
Where can I get a tool to start doing some for free?
Thanks, Chazzer.
Posted by: Louis12
Can anyone point me in the ride direction of learning Javascript. I have learnt HTML and PHP. I want to be able to be able to check if forms are complete on the client side as opposed to the sever side so why not learn the whole language?
Posted by: Iron_Cross
[url]http://www.tech-forums.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31371[/url] Read that. And look at the links in the JavaScript section
Posted by: mouse_8b
Personally, if you want to learn a powerful language, start with Java. I believe that Object Oriented Programming (OOP) is extrememly easy to learn with Java. Once done there, due to similar syntax, you might want to go to C++, which is the most powerful (but not necessarily easiest) language, in my opinion.
I am about equally proficient in both Java and C++, and I find it easier to program in Java, but also, I am not writing big time software (though I did advance to a National Competition with a program I wrote in Java that was up against VB and C++)
So, just pick a language, if it's too much, pick a different one.
And I believe any book by Sam's Publishing (Learn XXXX in XX time) is an excellent choice.
Posted by: furtivefelon
I personally will want to stay away from VB, C#, Java, as those are developed by big corporations for the masses (what they mean is that they will limit the **** out of you, can't do much interesting.. have you ever looked at how much repetition you have to do in order to accomplish something? Remembering "patterns" in java is one example.. if it's a regularly recurring pattern, why not let the machine do the work?)..
I'd recommend XHTML for starters :D for those people who don't think XHTML to be a valid option.. well, what do we use programming languages for? to make computer do what we want.. Making computer display stunning stuff does qualify as such :D so i think it's a valid choice
If your casual, you'd stop at learning javascript/php.. mind you, javascript is quite powerful, more powerful in it's syntax than say, java. PHP is useful mostly because it's easy, so easy that it only requires <?php ?> to start programming, oh yah, don't forget a php enabled server
mmm.. now you have exhausted 2 hour easy-to-learn languages.. let's get onto something harder learn python :P it's an extremely mature language, without the possible mess of Perl. Not that perl isn't good, perl is arguably more powerful than python is many aspects, just that when you see how nasty your code can get, especially for beginners, so don't learn perl unless you have several real languages under your belt Python is also a good language because it's flexible, it's designed for the smart programmers to use (most open source languages are :D)..
then when you have learn python, it's time to try for perl.. if you want.. or C, as it's the system language of the choice.. but the less you actually program in C, the happier you'll be
let's talk about the ultimate language you should be learning if your serious.. Lisp (i personally use lisp for most projects except school ones.. for those i use Java, as it is required for me to pass the year.).. It is literally the mother of all languages, it's the earliest high level language developed :D google "Practical Common lisp" if you want to learn it
mmm.. well, if you want to try some of the wierd languages, try Assembly :D there are tons of old books in your library about that.. i know very little, but seems interesting to see some history
that was long :D hope it has helped you a bit
Posted by: jinexile
[quote]I personally will want to stay away from VB, C#, Java, as those are developed by big corporations for the masses (what they mean is that they will limit the **** out of you, can't do much interesting..[/quote]
lol, That's a very nice tinfoil hat you wear.
Posted by: furtivefelon
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jinexile [/i]
[B]lol, That's a very nice tinfoil hat you wear. [/B][/QUOTE]
i don't get your comment.. can you please elaborate on what exactly i said wrong?
Posted by: Iron_Cross
He's saying you're crazy.
Posted by: furtivefelon
how am i crazy? then can you tell me what are the practical adventages of using java and such over the use of community driven language such as ruby, python and perl? The only thing that i can think of right now is that java can use applet.. but that isn't really practical or widespread.. you'd better off using a flash alternative :P
Posted by: Iron_Cross
I don't think you're crazy, but I don't agree with your statement:
[quote]
I personally will want to stay away from VB, C#, Java, as those are developed by big corporations for the masses (what they mean is that they will limit the **** out of you, can't do much interesting..
[/quote]
The reason I don't agree with that statement is because you lumped VB, C#, and Java all into the same group, and said they're all useless. I hate VB, but that doesn't meant you can't do anything with it. I'm not Super fond of Java anymore, but I still recognise it as an extremely powerful langauge. Sure there is lots of boiler plate code, but it's because of the extreme flexibilty you have that it's there.
Same with C#, the flexibility and power require that there be some redundant code. Languages where you're limited in your options and what you can do (e.g. perl, python, tcl, ruby) it's much easier to write less code, but you can't do NEAR as much with it. Try writing a commercial grade application (either command driven or Windowed) in Perl or Python. Chances are you could do it, but it won't be fun and not very good either. Now try writing the same application in C# or Java, there's a huge difference.
Posted by: furtivefelon
mmm.. i don't know about you, but i'm lazy.. i want to write as little code as i possibly can to accomplish something.. and java/c# is not flexible, if they are flexible, they'd not force you into the OO model (i agree OO model is useful in many cases, but in other cases moduler programming would be better and more logical).. can you show me what makes java more suitable to write "enterprise-grade" program that python/perl/ruby can't accomplish (you can basically translate java program line by line to python/ruby as you wish..)?
Posted by: Iron_Cross
You're using the wrong use of the word Flexible. Flexible, in the correct use of the word, describes what range of tasks you use a particular language for. You're using it to describe [b]how[/b] it handles tasks, and user convienience. Java and C# are extremely flexible because they can accomplish tasks on such a wide range without any trouble.
And to be honest, if I wanted to program an application in non-OOP (which I'm not sure why I would do that, because I have yet to find a company in favor of no-oop) in one of those langauges I could. The only thing I'm "forced" to do is contain that code in a class.
So if writing:
[code]
class ClassName{
}
[/code]
really bothers you [b]that[/b] much, then maybe you should re-think your profession.
And maybe you havne't noticed yet, but programming is NOT for lazy people. If you wish to be lazy I'd suggest you find another job. In order to obtain great power, [b]and[/b] great flexibility/robustness you [b]have[/b] to have some redundancy. It is absolutly impossible to combine power, robustness, flexiblity, and the option of security without redundancy.
And Dear God, you can't tell me you'd write an enterprise application using ruby or perl! Tell me how you'd write a nice front-end for an application that imports .CSV files, loads them into a grid that users can edit, then either exports them back to .CSV, .XML, or sends them directly to a SQL Server. On top of that it needs to allow custom user profiles, that are protected by enryption and store such things as user settings, sql servers, passwords, etc. Also, I'd like it to be able to dynamically handle different .CSV files, and different SQL Tables....Ok thanks.
I don't think you'd have too much luck. You might be able to make the program, but would it be extensible, easy to maintain, secure, ROBUST, and efficient? I don't think so. Not only that, this was only an extremely simple example, real-world enterprise applications are much more complicated than that.
Posted by: furtivefelon
mmm.. a range of tasks eh? well, considering all languages are turing equivalent (at least the languages we are talking about), they in theory can accomplish about the samething as any other language.. so flexible all comes down to the fact which makes your life easier.. and i pose again the same question.. can you tell me a feature that java has which makes java a better "enterprise grade" language than say python is?
now, let's see what's java's supposed adventages are:
it's Object Oriented, actually, it's not the best object oriented language out there, ruby, smalltalk, and CLOS (Common lisp object system - based on smalltalk) are all arguably more pure object oriented language than java
many features in java makes the code more resuable: ok, so it's relatiavly more resuable than assembly.. possibly even C (but it isn't nearly as effecient as c, which counts for alot in some arena).. but when you compare any language that has an adquate object oriention system, you can't say java is anymore reusable than the next object oriented language.. and let's consider what exactly is the most resuable at least in the programming language circle.. well, what do you use the most? programming language itself of course.. you can mold programming language to whatever you want. and that's the ultimate reusability.. whatever language makes your life as a programmer to change whatever you want in the language will be ultimately most reuseable.. as you can mold a general language to a domain specific language that you can use in the application.. one of the best example is Emacs's elisp.. and common lisp follow that tridition, it allows you as programmer to get on as much core as possible without prevent it to work, such as it prevents you to change garbage collector without alot of trouble..
i don't know what else java is good at (those are the stuff my comp sci teacher always telling us..)..
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Iron_Cross [/i]
[B]In order to obtain great power, and great flexibility/robustness you have to have some redundancy. It is absolutly impossible to combine power, robustness, flexiblity, and the option of security without redundancy.[/B]
[/QUOTE]
erm.. the whole point of high-level languages is to abstract away as much redundent detail as possible, if you and i agree that it's redundant, why not let computer do the work? as programmer time gets more and more expensive, why should we do any redundant work that we can abstract away?
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Iron_Cross [/i]
[B]You might be able to make the program, but would it be extensible, easy to maintain, secure, ROBUST, and efficient?[/B][/QUOTE]
extensible: yes, Object Orientation is not the only way to obtain extensible software, may be you *should* investgate bottom up programming? check out the following article: [url]http://www.paulgraham.com/progbot.html[/url]
easy to maintain: i'm not really sure what you mean by that.. in my mind, easy to maintain means keeping program short, brevity is always the key to keeping everything clear (i learnt that while writing essays :D), when you can keep more of your program in your head at one time, you'd have an easier time of finding where to change..
secure: well, security is such an elusive term, any properly constructed program will be secure, no matter what language you use.. though, as program grow, the security holes will grow, so keeping it short will help :D
robust: again, i'm not really sure what you mean by robust, i have a hard time coming up with an explanation that's not explained before.. the first thing come to mind is efficient, but guess you already had that covered..
efficient: well, java is anything but efficient.. if you call 200 times the speed of c efficient, i don't know what's inefficient :D there isn't even an option natively to compile java into machine code, if they allow that, then java "might" be more efficient :D
again, i'm not trying to argue that we should all ditch java and use some other language.. surely there is something java good at that everyone likes (not that i can think of any), but, if you want to use java and loves it, i'm only suggesting that you investigate other options if you really love programming.. if OO style is the be all end all style, then what the **** is Aspect Oriented programming doing here?
Posted by: furtivefelon
ah, this link is due for submission:
[url]http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html[/url] - how to become a hacker :D - read it, learn it, live by it..
Posted by: ac3ofsk13s
i have learned html and now im on to c++
Posted by: NIN
I've used HTML in class a while ago and decided to learn some programming. I started C with a small book and decided to switch to python. I really like python and it's a really good one to start out with.
[url]www.greenteapress.com[/url] has some open source books on Python, Java and C++. I plan to go though all of those for a start. then worry about the web languages. Python is alot more fun than screwing around with HTML. How about this for a easy hello world program.
print 'Hello World'
BTW, thanks for all of the useful links.
Peace,
Tom
Posted by: Chankama
From my experience, this is the language order I recommend.
[list]
[*] C
[*] C++
[*] (assembly)
[*] Java
[*] C#
[*] (assembly)
[/list]
Writing a "Hello World" in C, probably takes you 5 lines. How more simply can you get? :)
Posted by: furtivefelon
How about one line?:
python: print("Hello world")
lisp: (format t "hello world!")
what's the point of learning c# or Java when you have already learnt c/c++? (after all, they are in the same family, your better off learning python, at least it is trying to be different).. Learning assembly? I believe time will be much better spend learning something useful, such as writing a compiler, lisp, or anything else..
Posted by: Chankama
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by furtivefelon [/i]
[B]How about one line?:
python: print("Hello world")
lisp: (format t "hello world!")
[/B][/QUOTE]
I wasn't actually "asking" that as a question. Just wanted to emphasize how simple "C" really is. There are many languages that can do that in just "one" line. :)
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by furtivefelon [/i]
[B]what's the point of learning c# or Java when you have already learnt c/c++?
[/B][/QUOTE]
b/c they are useful in many types of infrastructure. All languages have their advantages. Otherwise, people wouldn't use them.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by furtivefelon [/i]
[b]Learning assembly? I believe time will be much better spend learning something useful,
[/B]
[/QUOTE]
Assembly is extremely useful to know if you go into embedded development. And in general, as a "programmer" you should know it. It's like being a English teacher without knowing much about Shakespeare.
Posted by: trash789
As a beginner its better to start off with C programming language because it is the easiest programming language to learn.
Develop your programming skills, master C and then jump on to others.
Posted by: mova
I have read a lot about the langugages C, C++ c# Java
however I wnder about the D language
can you help me to understand the pros or cons about this language?.
what is the " enterprize level" size based
.- amount of products being sold
.- amount of data in the web
.- size of web space ( pages ,)
.- if you can give me numbers ,
.- Or other reason ?
like more than 500 products or more than 5000 thousand pages
when do you use PHP?
when do ou use Phyton?
thank you fo ryour time
and I holpe someday I will be like you guys
Posted by: furtivefelon
Where did you get "Enterprise level" from? If you haven't heard of a language in the mainstream press, it's not used in enterprise..
D is negligible in all areas you mentioned, at least number wise, in other words, it's not used much in industry, if you want to get a code monkey job, continue with c++/java/php or whatnot.. Though, i cannot say definitely, you may be able to prove me wron g by getting a job using D?
If you program for the fun of it, explore new things, don't wait til a language gets settled, every "settled" language gathers dust and become unwieldy over time.. only to be replaced by a new up and coming language promising this and that..
[url]http://www.php.net/[/url]
[url]http://www.python.org/[/url]
read it, both are popular languages, official site should be your first stop..
Posted by: mova
hello furtivefelon!
thank you for your input
to answer your questions
I read some reviews about PHP being unsuitable for enterprise proyects , naming Java, and C++, C# like the best choices
that only PHP can be used for " small web sites , this question makes me wonder if instead of using php I should look for Phyton instead ,
being new at this amazing new world for me I would like to have a solid foundation even though that my initital goal was to create a web site for my construction company , the more I look into HTML, land then lead to Javascript ,CSS, now DOM , Ajax,ect.
Now PHP
I am very excited about learning PHP and Phyton , But my next question is should I skip the former and go straight to the php
and phyton ?
I would like to build websites for small business like me
I really want to become a expert like all of you ,
about D programing I can not find books about it I lookinto the official website , they claim to be better than java and C++ but I did not see any excitment abut this language so that made me wonder about the "D":
I would like to jump to the " big and real programing languages but I realize it will take yearsbut everthing seems to be incredibly interesting .
I have seen your other reviews and I appreciate than you took the time . Well after all I got the programing title of "Monkey" and "virgin" LOL. well that is a place to start !
Posted by: mova
Would like to apologize for the carless typing !
I know that bad typing insults the respect of the readers .
specialy for "detail oriented "people like programers
Posted by: mova
I have research lisp and it seems that it is a powerful language
What languages do I need ,to learn Lisp?
I want a general purpose language , that I can use on the web, e- commerce and stand alone application . I understand the philosophy of furtivefelon, I do not have to follow the mainstream laguages because I have to program as I am told by the companies that pay my check .
I visited some of the CLISP( common Lisp) websites ([url]http://www.paulgraham.com/index.html[/url])
and they explain why Lisp is not as popular , it was an honest essay and I was sold.
it better for me to have efficientand powerful language than having a popular language.
I think I will make my goal to learn Lisp,
I just need to know what skills to get there.
so far, Mr furtivefelon
From: ( "virgin code monkey")Mova
Posted by: mova
what is the real lisp commonlisp or the ansiclisp there are so many dialects , I would like to know which one is the real lisp and where can
I download it from . thank you
Posted by: The Future
Speaking strictly from a broader point of view, an object-oriented language like C++ or Java would be very good to start out with, since it is easier I imagine to learn OOP design right off the bat, rather than supplementing your procedural programming knowledge with it.
Since C++ is generally considered more difficult, Java is a wonderful choice for a beginner. There are thousands of Java reference and tutorial sites for beginner and users of all levels, so that's definitely my recommendation.
Posted by: Fabyfakid
#include <stdio.h>
#include <math.h> //just for the **** of it
void main()
{
char program;
printf("Enter your favorite program:\n");
scanf("%s", &program);
if(program != 'C' || program != "C++")
{
printf("This program sucks!\n");
printf("Enter a REAL program:");
scanf("%s", &program);
}
else
printf("\nU **** right!");
getchar();
}
I think the above expresses my views on this topic quite nicely...
Posted by: ritesh26
I think you should start your programming by C language.
After good practice you can go definitely in any language you like.
It my experience , i am working as software professional more than 2 years. I have worked on C, JAVA, JSP, Struts, PHP, AJAX, and few time VB.
[url]http://developer.frih.net/[/url]
Posted by: blackhawk13
[url]http://www.itworld.com/Career/1909/CWSTO57985/[/url]
Java's actually in demand. It would be a good language to learn, trust me. You CAN do a lot with it.
Posted by: ryno
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Fabyfakid [/i]
I think the above expresses my views on this topic quite nicely... [/QUOTE]
Error 3 error C2040: '!=' : 'int' differs in levels of indirection from 'const char [4]' c:\Documents and Settings\Steve.B974B8D84\My Documents\Visual Studio 2005\Projects\FunnyTest\FunnyTest\main.c pp 10
Error 2 error C2446: '!=' : no conversion from 'const char *' to 'int' c:\Documents and Settings\Steve.B974B8D84\My Documents\Visual Studio 2005\Projects\FunnyTest\FunnyTest\main.cpp 10